​​​​A Weekend in Chicago​ ​ and  Obama had some strong words for a gun-store owner who confronted him at a town-hall event in Indiana

Gun Control: There are two sides to this argument. Those who want to limit access to guns, and those that do not.  Two persuasive arguments:                                  and                                                                 and 











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Two Supreme Court decisions have weighted in on the issue: District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago  SCOTUS ruled in favor of both Heller and McDonald, "Court reasoned that rights that are "fundamental to the Nation's scheme of ordered liberty" or that are "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition. The Court recognized in Heller that the right to self-defense was one such "fundamental" and "deeply rooted" right"


We need to find out what Switzerland is doing, The Swiss Difference: A Gun Culture That Works  "Switzerland trails behind only the U.S, Yemen and Serbia in the number of guns per capita; between 2.3 million and 4.5 million military and private firearms are estimated to be in circulation in a country of only 8 million people. Yet, despite the prevalence of guns, the violent-crime rate is low: government figures show about 0.5 gun homicides per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010. By comparison, the U.S rate in the same year was about 5 firearm killings per 100,000 people, according to a 2011 U.N. report."


FACT CHECK: Is Chicago Proof That Gun Laws Don't Work?  BUT  Are Chicago's gun laws that strict? An explainer  and Chicago Isn’t Even Close to Being the Gun Violence Capital of the United States.  We definitely have to do something about the home of my beloved Cubs, Chicago!  Chicago shooting victims , Tracking Chicago shooting victims  and  Chicago Girl Who Performed at Obama’s Inauguration Killed in Shooting   This is wrong!  I don't know the answer(s), but I promise you as president, I will try to find some!  Chicago’s Murder Problem​  We have got to find a way to keep things like this from happening! Girl, 9, who asked if cops could keep her safe dies and Paulding County child killed after accidentally shooting himself​.  Someone in Chicago is tying to do something:  Urban Warriors: Stemming the tide of street violence


SOME GREAT NEWS!!!!    Editorial:  Why is Chicago violent crime in decline?       

Chicago killings and shootings drop for 14th consecutive month


​​The NRA's Influence on Gun Control?   How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment


Gunned Down: The Power of the NRA​   and   How Gun Maker Smith & Wesson Almost Went Out Of Business When It Accepted Gun Control   and   Audit shows NRA spending surged $100 million amidst pro-Trump push in 2016


Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses   H.J.Res.40 — 115th Congress (2017-2018)


Milwaukee's Police Chief Speaks Out:












Updates:


How the Gun Control Debate Ignores Black Lives


New gun control law targets Chicago violence    Great start, but what about people who illegally possess guns? The BUYERS?


Children are killing themselves more and more with guns


KIDS AND GUNS: SHOOTINGS NOW THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR U.S. CHILDREN


Illinois governor signs bill targeting repeat gun offenders


GUNS MAKE US SAFE? NRA THEORY DEBUNKED IN NEW STANFORD ANALYSIS


Banning ‘Bump Stocks’ Won’t Solve Anything


After Las Vegas, Democratic House members donate their past NRA contributions


Here's why the federal government can't study gun violence


Spurious Chart, Data on N.R.A. Spending Mislead in Gun Debate


The forgotten NRA leader who thought carrying guns should be 'sharply restricted'


Texas church massacre brings more grief, prayers, questions — and the same failure to act


​​At least 26 dead, 20 injured in shooting at rural Texas church


At least 26 dead in South Texas church shooting, officials say


Air Force Error Allowed Texas Gunman to Buy Weapons


The indefensible Republican response to the Texas mass shooting


If Trump’s Blaming Mental Health, Why Did He Gut This Obama Gun-Check Rule?


The gun lobby: See how much your representative gets


After Texas shooting, Trump and politicians show how mental they are


​​Trump’s highly dubious claim that more gun control could have left ‘hundreds more dead’ in Texas


Why the AR-15 Is So Lethal


Gallup poll: Majority of Americans now favor more gun laws


Grinnell anti-gun violence activists hope to meet with their neighbor: the NRA president


America's response to school massacres? A booming classroom security industry


Malcolm Graham: Sutherland Springs joins the saddest fraternity


S.C. reforms to keep guns away from domestic abusers hampered by lack of enforcement, advocates say


The Justice Department has ordered a review of the background check system for gun buyers


More than 4,000 guns had to be retrieved from buyers after delayed background checks last year


LUPICA: Two more kids dead in latest gun violence, but where’s the outrage in Congress?


​​This nativity scene makes a statement about gun violence


I spoke my mind on guns. Then my Senate confirmation was put on hold.


The Gun Lobby Is Hindering Suicide Prevention


Amid another school shooting, Sen. Murphy delivers emotional speech on gun violence


At least 17 dead in Florida school shooting, law enforcement says


Eighteen years of gun violence in U.S. schools, mapped


NY Daily News calls out GOP senators on NRA money


​Sadly, US will not learn from latest carnage


Republicans’ indifference to the massacres of innocents will lead to their ruin


There’s an Awful Lot We Still Don’t Know About Guns


For many mass shooters, armed guards aren’t a deterrent, they’re part of the fantasy


This major new report on gun deaths should shock us all


Schools shouldn’t arm staff because they’re full of ‘lady teachers,’ Alabama lawmaker says


CHART: How Have Your Members Of Congress Voted On Gun Bills?


Stop Shielding Gun Makers


New York passes legislation to prevent domestic abusers from possessing guns


Federal judge upholds Massachusetts assault weapons ban​


Dick's Sporting Goods will destroy assault-style rifles pulled from shelves


After Dropping Assault Rifles, Dick's Starts Lobbying for Gun Control


It's time for the NRA to focus more on safety than the Second Amendment


How the NRA resurrected the Second Amendment


​​Trump Pledged To Take On The NRA; Now He's Speaking At Group's Annual Convention

Back in March?    President Donald Trump Says Take Guns 'Early' Without Due Process | CNBC


AP review: More than 30 mishaps from armed adults at schools


Boulder, Colorado, unanimously votes to ban assault weapons, high-capacity magazines


​​​Generation lockdown: There have been 16 school shootings in 2018 alone

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​One of the three men who molded me as a person, who acted like a father to me, wrote this in response to a Facebook post I put on another friend's Facebook page.
"David, what is the logical goal of the gun control crowd? Lets look at another issue. When the transgender movement really got traction many people warned of unintended consequences, such as "males" competing in female sports. Now we have had exactly that where a "male" in Alaska has given the girls a loss of their sport after he made history by winning their track meet and receiving All-State Honors In Girls Track And Field. With your background you should know the cost of Liberty is not cheap and liberty is rarely served by more government. I would suggest that instead of pointing fingers at the NRA we would be better served by pointing at those who would commit these acts. Ask yourself why so many individuals who have shown violence and used firearms to commit violent acts continue to be released back into the public. The NRA is not the enemy. You say, " NRA spends a lot of money where it could go to other things like free gun safety classes or free open carry schools." Then why not hold the many gun control groups to that same point?"


You can see I have been blessed by having some great second fathers/mentors during my 30-year Hall of Fame CAD/Reprographics career.   I promised him I would get back to him with my reply. I have been thinking for several hours and have come up with this response: (Caveat, driving is a privilege. To quote a mentor of mine, "Consider, if you will, putting the same restrictions on the right to due process of law and the freedoms of speech, press, religion, assembly, and petition. I think you will agree that is not a path we should go down..."  I agree with him.  A fellow candidate for POTUS doesn't seem to share this belief)  - I now return you to my response:


Once there was a man who was found dead on the side of the road. Soon, a woman was found dead a few towns over. Before you know it, others were dying or being injured. It became clear pretty quickly what the culprit was when a victim was found with the offending device. The device in question? A car, the automobile. Soon, people realized we need to regulate this new device. Put limits on where and how fast it can go. Start requiring training for its use. Require testing on the user's ability to operate the device. Start tracking the owner of the device, putting a number on a plate and attaching it to the device. Issuing a piece of paper that shows authorities the operator has the privilege of operating said device.


Opponents of gun control use the argument that their guns will be taken away. I haven't seen a rush to take cars away. Another argument is that the government or other people will know who has guns. We know you have a car from the fact you have a driveway or a garage. We can see you drive your car.    Someone else likes my Cars analogy, How to Reduce Shootings


The 'Limbaugh Plan'?                  


Any conviction of a felony goes into the FBI Database, civilian or military, no exceptions. Felony conviction equals loss of gun privilege. If you love the "Not Infringed" part of Second Amendment, I love the "Well Regulated" part. Any domestic violence conviction or divorce settlement where that is a factor precludes gun ownership. ALL sales are subject to clearance from said database. Gun shows. Private sales. When you sell a pickup truck, title must be cleared and registration changed. ALL GUN sales. IF you want to be a gun hobbyist or owner of multiple weapons fine. We have CDL license for people who want to drive something other than a car.  You are a recognized gun enthusiast.  FIRST Time gun buyers should have their purchases scrutinized more. Agreed? IF a person has been prescribed mental health medications that precludes him or her from gun ownership.  We can stay inside HIPAA by creating a "Denied for Other Purposes" category without a specific reason.  Remember guns don't kill people, bullets from weapons kill people.  Track ammunition purchases and flag large or multiple purchases.  If a golfer buys 10,000 golf balls, that might raise an eyebrow. 


Gun control will never prevent every mass shooting like Orlando (and sadly, now Las Vegas) (Update, now a church in Texas.)  I am not advocating Gun Control out of an emotional response to the terrible event there. For years I have wanted a system in place that might save a family from being shot by a parent, or someone taking their own life, or someone from accidentally getting shot.


If a person is hell-bent on killing others, and has no respect for their life or the law, they are going to attempt to do what they want to do. No law is ever going to stop someone who has no concern for their own well-being or the possibility of prison time or other consequences for their actions. There is a lot of truth in "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns!"


To answer my friend's questions:

"David, what is the logical goal of the gun control crowd?"

I can't speak for the crowd. I can only speak for myself. I want to save every life possible. From homicide, suicide or accident. I want more stringent background checks, I want better training. I want more punitive laws for having a gun illegally.

"Ask yourself why so many individuals who have shown violence and used firearms to commit violent acts continue to be released back into the public."   I agree! I have asked for years why we put so many people in prison for drugs but not for violent crimes? Why does someone get life for drugs and 12 months for rape? 30 years for drugs but 1 year for illegal possession of a handgun? Lets put the people who can do us physical harm in prison longer than those who are only harming themselves. Lets get those people help with their issues. Lets punish harsher those harming others.

"Then why not hold the many gun control groups to that same point?"

I do. When I ran for State Senate the NRA sent me a questionnaire on my stance on issues pertaining to guns. I threw it away. I hate how our government is run by leaders who's very existence in office depends on their ability to raise money. In my opinion, the NRA is a great example of that (along with Big Oil, Pharma, Defense Contractors, Big Farming, Insurance Companies and etc...)  NRA spending money?   NRA's Campaign Spending    $54,398,558  million in 2016 Election Cycle.  Can we get together as a country and find some common ground and create some common-sense, enforceable, laws on the purchase and use of a gun? We seemed to have accomplished that for the car.

​What about guns divides Americans?


Do You Know Where America Stands On Guns?


My Stance?  If 0 mean no guns and 5 means no regulations I am about a 4.5 on that scale. I understand the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment. The key is the definition of infringed.


to do something that does not obey or follow (a rule, law, etc.) ( chiefly US )

: to wrongly limit or restrict (something, such as another person's rights)


​I shared my views on Gun Control during a debate with a fellow teacher versus two students: 

Breaking down the NRA-backed theory that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun


​​The Good Guy with a Gun Theory, Debunked


​​The “Good Guy With a Gun” Myth                         2018 has already outpaced 2017 in K-12 school shooting deaths


The Limbaugh Gun Control Proposal                                        Gun Rights vs Gun Control 


1)  If a Felon is caught with a weapon, he or she will serve five years, not a day less. Five years they are not shooting someone. 


2)  Accurate background checks with current data.  ALL Gun Sales must go through a Licensed Seller.


3)  No gun for anyone with a record of domestic violence.

UPDATE!   Oregon becomes first state to add new gun law since Parkland shooting  -  Closed Boyfriend Loophole. 

Now New York  -  New York passes legislation to prevent domestic abusers from possessing guns


​4) For people with mental illness, screen for drugs being taken and the type of illness. 


5) If your weapon is involved in a violent crime and you are liable for that person obtaining the weapon involved you are criminally and civilly involved. 


6) Anyone that makes violent threats to others are banned from owning a gun. No Big Brother Government Agency looking, but a national 'neighborhood watch' where people can report threats and be guaranteed it will be investigated and they will receive feedback on their report. Think customer support and incident tickets.  https://www.saysomething.net/ is a great example of what can be done.


7) Limit the firing rate of a rifle to 10 rounds per minute unless owner has a special license (Think CDL for driving) that requires training and testing and renewing every 5 years. Subject to revocation for any violation of 1 to 5. 


8) No alterations, accessories or modifications that increase a weapon's rate of fire.


What do you think of that?                                                Lives Lost in Three Decades of School Shootings

​​​5 years after Sandy Hook, the victims have not been forgotten


After Sandy Hook we said never again. And then we let 1,576 mass shootings happen.

​​10 Minutes. 12 Gunfire Bursts. 30 Videos. Mapping the Las Vegas Massacre.

The NRA once believed in gun control and had a leader who pushed for it


MASS SHOOTINGS     and     massshootingtracker.org


Need data?    https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-school-shootings


Why Are So Many Mass Shootings Committed by Young White Men?


​477 Days. 521 Mass Shootings. Zero Action From Congress.


Thoughts and Prayers and N.R.A. Funding              JORDAN KLEPPER SOLVES GUNS

​Column: The NRA's idea of recreation: Assault rifles, armor-piercing bullets and silencers


​​Nothing Divides Voters Like Owning a Gun                                       Veterans for Gun Reform

How to Prevent Gun Deaths? Where Experts and the Public Agree        How strictly are guns regulated where you live?

35 Years of Mass Shootings in the U.S. in One Chart         https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-school-shootings


How Often Do People Use Guns In Self-Defense?            More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows


Me?  4.5?  I am against arbitrary laws passed dealing with the type of weapon or the capacity of a magazine. I am probably (wait - absolutely) wrong on this! Can I change that to was?  Not only does the Bill of Rights cover that but where does one draw that line?  Maybe it is time to draw that line?   I am for trying to limit the access of guns for some people who may have either forfeited their right to own one or do not need to own one for their own good or someone else's. Wait David, where do we draw that line? Mental health issues. Past behavior. Harsher penalties for illegal use of a firearm.  I do not profess to having all the answers but I give you my word I will work hard with people more versed on this topic to get some.


I have been to Baltimore several times. I love the city, the waterfront. Camden Yards with some Boog's Bar-B-Cue.   Sadly, it has a lot of people getting shot:  Arrests in Baltimore for illegal guns often lead to dropped charges or little jail time   Quote: Daniel Webster, a Johns Hopkins University professor who studies guns and has been consulting with city leaders, says the criminal justice system has been re-examining sentencing and bails, and not everyone deserves lengthy prison time. At the same time, he said, research shows "focusing on gun offenders very consistently, when done well, correlates with fewer people getting shot." End Quote.  One of my Gun-Control ideas? Put people in jail for having guns illegally.  What do you think about this idea?  If you are a convicted felon and you are caught with a firearm, two years in prison for first offense, five for second and ten for third.  Non-Felons caught with an illegal firearm one year for first offense, then two, five and ten.  We need some deterrent to make people think twice about picking up a gun. If they do, we have some time of some people not getting shot while someone is in a prison cell thinking of he decision they made. 

Over the years laws have been enacted preventing convicted felons from owning a gun, Can a Felon Own a Gun? 5 Loopholes in Federal Law   I don't see the word FELON in the Second Amendment but laws have been passed that infringed on their right to gun ownership.  Those who want handguns made illegal, how has making drugs illegal or DUI illegal worked out?  I don't agree with the zero regulation people either.  The people talking about assault rifles and large capacity magazines, please check out the video below of a lady giving testimony to a U.S. Senate committee about her experience losing her parents in the Luby's Restaurant shooting and watch her demonstrate how quickly one can reload a handgun and the legitimate use someone had for an AR-15 a few years ago.  I want both sides of the argument to drop the vitriolic tone and lets try to reach some common ground on some meaningful Gun Control Laws.  No law is going to prevent a person from doing a terrible thing in a free society. If we can reduce gun violence in Chicago... If we can reduce the number of times a toddler is either shot or accidentally shoots someone, or prevent some suicides from taking place, that is a good thing.

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